EDUCATION Minister Tim Crookall admitted that he had been surprised on his appointment by the level of financial cutbacks sustained by the department.
He and outgoing chief executive Stuart Dobson were grilled on issues ranging from tuition fees to bendy buses when they appeared before the Social Affairs scrutiny committee.
Committee chairman Brenda Cannell MHK asked him: ‘You’ve not been in as Minister for very long. Is it what you expected or more demanding and perhaps perplexing? Were you surprised by the level of financial cutbacks?’
Mr Crookall MHK replied: ‘Certainly more perplexing. With everything going on it keeps you on your toes and very busy. I have to say I was [surprised] at what the department had gone through since 2008, with huge cuts one way or another, staff movements and big cutbacks, yes – very big.’
Most of the committee’s questions were handled by Mr Dobson, beginning with the newly privatised pre-schools.
He said that as at March 23, credit vouchers had been claimed for a total of 863 children attending one of 43 registered pre-school settings.
He said 25 per cent had received the enhanced vouchers – providing £800 on top of the standard £350 for those who are eligible for free school meals – and Mr Dobson admitted: ‘This is quite a surprise.’
Mrs Cannell said: ‘Twenty five per cent of the 863 are for families who are struggling financially – that figure could grow because of the state of the economy.’
Questioning then turned to the issue of class sizes. Mr Dobson said that five years ago, it would be fairly rare to find a class size of 25 or more children. Now 41 per cent of classes contain 25 pupils and 9 per cent have more than 30 children.
‘That sounds pretty bleak but schools are being much more creative in the way that they staff.’
He said the teacher-pupil ratio had risen from 1-20 to 1-22, which he said still compared favourably with the UK.
David Callister, former MLC, asked whether there were any schools that were too small to be sustainable.
Mr Dobson replied: ‘We’ve none that are so small. We have some with shrinking roles. I don’t think we have got any under 60 currently.’
Steve Rodan asked about the sweeping reforms proposed by Mr Crookall’s UK counterpart Michael Gove which envisaged a return to old methods of teaching facts, figures and dates.
The Minister replied that he was someone a ‘bit biased towards the old system’ having experienced that in his own school days.
But Mr Dobson said a rote learning approach went completely against pedagogical and psychological research that young people do not learn more simply by ‘regurgitating facts for examination’.
Mr Rodan said that children needed to draw on a body of knowledge perhaps learned by rote. ‘To that extent isn’t Mr Gove right?’ he asked. Mr Dobson said Mr Gove’s comments significantly undermined schools doing a good job. ‘We all learn best when we make errors,’ he added.
Turning to student loans, Mr Dobson said it was too early to say whether the introduction of a £2,500 contribution to university fees would have an impact on the number of students going off-island to study.
Mr Dobson said the changes had led to students really thinking about what they wanted to do. ‘They are thinking quite differently about the purpose of going to university. I think that’s a good place to be.’
He said having met with students he wasn’t aware of any parents who had refused to pay the fees but some had refused to pay for courses that their child wanted to go on.
There had been a lot of interest in alternatives such as studying at Isle of Man College, he added.
Asked about the education department’s stance on bendy buses, Mr Crookall said: ‘We are all concerned about it. We are concerned about 100 standing children, possibly 140 children on a bus.’
He said he would like to think if there was anything to be concerned about it would come out in the report being done by the Department of Community, Culture and Leisure.
Mr Dobson said views of head teachers would be sought and the department would give its honest feedback.
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